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  This religion is about to be toast.

  by kneehighmiah in

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  the governing body is preparing to take a major hit.

  this recent watchtower shows it.

  not the new understandings, but the article on marriage.

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  Cause she's jealous that the sister getting married took the last available MS on the island.....
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  Many Member Just Want to Believe

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.

  so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.

  " i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.

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  Agreed....the individual witness believes that they are special. God has "drawn" them to the organization and God can't be wrong when it comes to people being special.....
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  The Watchtower 3/15/2015 Parables! New Understanding! plus More!

  by wifibandit in

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  http://imgur.com/a/e6dos.

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  Excellent points....thanks for sharing points from the article....I dont read any of it anymore....it is religious pornography
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  This religion is about to be toast.

  by kneehighmiah in

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  the governing body is preparing to take a major hit.

  this recent watchtower shows it.

  not the new understandings, but the article on marriage.

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  @ Vidiot - Ditto
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  My problem with Original Sin

  by leftbelow in

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  i found this quote in a book i was reading and it struck me this is why original sin is a problem for me.. damnation is the start of your morality, destruction is its purpose, means and end.

  your code begins by damning man as evil, then demands that he practice a good which it defines as impossible for him to practice.

  it demands, as his first proof of virtue, that he accept his own depravity without proof.

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  If God is a God of perfection in whom there is no blame, then how can he justify permitting sin to exist in the first place. I like the Buddhist position better, in the beginning was ignorance not sin.
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  New light scripture??

  by Daisychaindream in

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  i've seen it mentioned in a few posts and i didn't want to high jack!

  can anyone explain what this is about?.

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  New light is any new teaching that the ORG thinks will keep them relevant as a "beacon" for the rank and file to follow. Funny, though, that some of the new light was actually old light that turned new again after the previous new light became old and then replaced by new.

  Its like buying an LED light fixture to replace an incandescent only to use the LED for awhile then replacing it with the incandescent or maybe even a fluorsecent.

  I have learned that the God of the Watchtower changes his mind a lot...
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  This could be an interesting court case to watch.

  by JeffT in

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  http://www.christianpost.com/news/kansas-church-that-left-presbyterian-church-usa-takes-property-fight-to-court-130936/the short version: a presbyterian congregation voted to leave the presbyterian church (usa) and join a more conservative presbyterian organization.

  the lawsuit is over who owns the building.

  obviously, this is of interest to the xjw community given the recent land grab by the watchtower society.

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  I think something like this happened in Texas USA....maybe someone here knows where and can give us details as to what happened.
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  How to fade intelligently ?

  by TheFadingAlbatros in

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  how to fade intelligently ?

  tell me your secret and then i will tell you in due time my secret.

  it's important when we have to face a manipulative cult with some members of our family trapped inside, yes it is important to know how to fade intelligently so that our jw family members are not going to shun us.

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  Isle of Lewis is pretty much the way I have faded. Fortunately (and unfortunately) we experienced a tragedy in our family that really opened my eyes to the TTAT. Unlike some who decide to leave because of doctrine, the lack of love was the catalyst. Missing meetings and service was easy once I confronted the elders for their lack of concern and true empathy and compassion. Elders don't like it when people tell them they are far from Jesus especially when you have served as an elder are were stellar in that regard (not trying to blow my own horn, just the truth). So, no calls. No visits. No shepherding. NOT even a visit from the CO after serving for as long as I did. It has been easy for me and no incling of returning.

  As for family, well my family was pretty dysfunctional anyway so they pretty much didnt care about me or mine when we were towing the party line....no great loss there.
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  LET'S HELP JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TO LOVE APOSTATES

  by Terry in

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  simple application of logic to scripture interpretation:.

  if two terms mean the same thing it should not change the meaning to exchange one word for the other.. first, jesus lays the foundation for us.

  let us read.. luke 6:27-37 "but i say to you who are listening, continue to love your enemies , to do good to those hating you, to bless those cursing you, to pray for those who are insulting you.

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  Good points Terry, but I have to disagree with the premise that apostates hate, curse and insult witnesses. Most of us like them so I wouldnt really consider us enemies....I think the scripture better applies in the reverse.
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  "UNTIL he arrives . . ." Why do we still celebrate the Memorial? CAUSES VS. EFFECTS

  by Terry in

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  jehovah's witnesses teach worldwide that jesus arrived in 1874 1914.. i think i must have missed the wt explanation: why do we still celebrate the memorial of jesus if he returned already?.

  1 corinthians 11:26 "for as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the lord, until he arrives (erchomai).".

  let's break this down.. 1. jesus christ 'returned' arrived in 1914 (cause).. 2.

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  The MEMORIAL is a barometer....it establishes 5 fundamental things.

  1) It measures Effort made in the preaching work to encourage attendance

  2) Spring cleaning and upkeep of the hall and grounds

  3) Ability to discern how many are affected by the mental disease of "believing" that they are anointed even after the ORG has stated they are not

  4) Opportunity for elders to sit in a row and serve each other the emblems that way distinguishing them from the ordinary in the hall

  5) Chance to "guilt" the congregation, particularly the inactive or irregular who invariably show up for the fiasco